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Bowman or Watt?

Postby bjorklunde » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:11 pm

Pick a side.

A: Demarcus Ware & Navarro Bowman

or

B: JJ Watt & D'Qwell Jackson

D'Qwell can be swapped with either Jo-lonn Dunbar or Lawrence Timmons

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Re: Bowman or Watt?

Postby whatadai » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:15 pm

JJ Watt and DQwell Jackson.
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Re: Bowman or Watt?

Postby Team Tacos » Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:06 pm

Watt and Jackson

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Re: Bowman or Watt?

Postby boobam13 » Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:55 pm

Im going to say Ware and Bowman


Ware will be a much better DL scorer than he was at LB, his numbers at LB were decent but not start-able in most leagues but being that he is now a DL, heck yeah! Jackson is moving from a 4-3 Def to a 3-4 where he will have Robertson stealing tackles from him, so I see the gap from Ware to Watt about 40 points but the gap from Bowman to Jackson more than that...plus Jackson isn't the picture of good health and he is getting up in age.
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Re: Bowman or Watt?

Postby rangerdave » Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:01 pm

boobam13 wrote:Im going to say Ware and Bowman


Ware will be a much better DL scorer than he was at LB, his numbers at LB were decent but not start-able in most leagues but being that he is now a DL, heck yeah! Jackson is moving from a 4-3 Def to a 3-4 where he will have Robertson stealing tackles from him, so I see the gap from Ware to Watt about 40 points but the gap from Bowman to Jackson more than that...plus Jackson isn't the picture of good health and he is getting up in age.
I too will go with Ware and Bowman. Not down on Jackson like boobam, but I prefer a high end LB1 and a low end DL1 over a high end DL1 and a low end LB2.
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Re: Bowman or Watt?

Postby whatadai » Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:53 pm

boobam13 wrote:Im going to say Ware and Bowman


Ware will be a much better DL scorer than he was at LB, his numbers at LB were decent but not start-able in most leagues but being that he is now a DL, heck yeah! Jackson is moving from a 4-3 Def to a 3-4 where he will have Robertson stealing tackles from him, so I see the gap from Ware to Watt about 40 points but the gap from Bowman to Jackson more than that...plus Jackson isn't the picture of good health and he is getting up in age.
Jackson is up there in age? He's about to turn 30 and Ware is about to turn 31. What about Ware's age? LBs are much easier to find than stud DLs like Watt. Watt can last you years and diamond in the rough LBs come out of nowhere every year.
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Re: Bowman or Watt?

Postby FiremanEd » Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:27 pm

I have to grab Watt. The guy produced out of this world last year and is still super young. I would have to take him. Jackson is solid as well, and I need to see Ware with his hand on the ground...

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Re: Bowman or Watt?

Postby MR ROURKE » Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:22 am

Ware & Bowman for me as well.

Ware can be a beast while being scored as a DE. Ware basically played a wide nine DE in the previous 3-4 defense and I thought he had his hand on the ground a lot.

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Re: Bowman or Watt?

Postby boobam13 » Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:45 am

The thing about DL is every year you have a new stud, go back into your league scoring and see who the top scorers are at that position...you'll see names like allen, tuck, jpp, watt, etc...teams have an offseason to plan for these guys, between than and def scheme changes the turn over for DL is huge. Ill take the top 5 LB anyday
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Re: Bowman or Watt?

Postby bjorklunde » Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:31 am

It's more evenly matched than I thought it would be. Let me as you this: If your current LB core consisted of- Kuechly, Washington, Bowman, McCarthy, & M.Kendricks, would you trade away Bowman & Ware to get Watt & Jackson? or Watt & Timmons? or Watt & Dunbar? I have to start 2LB & can flex 1. Having Kuechly & Washington doesn't make Bowman expendable, but it doesn't hurt me as much to send one of the big 3 packing if I can bring in a guy like Watt.

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Re: Bowman or Watt?

Postby rangerdave » Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:12 am

bjorklunde wrote:It's more evenly matched than I thought it would be. Let me as you this: If your current LB core consisted of- Kuechly, Washington, Bowman, McCarthy, & M.Kendricks, would you trade away Bowman & Ware to get Watt & Jackson? or Watt & Timmons? or Watt & Dunbar? I have to start 2LB & can flex 1. Having Kuechly & Washington doesn't make Bowman expendable, but it doesn't hurt me as much to send one of the big 3 packing if I can bring in a guy like Watt.

My DE: Ware, Mi.Johnson, & Datone Jones
In this instance, I would switch from my vacuum pick of Bowman and Ware to a pick of Watt and Jackson.
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Re: Bowman or Watt?

Postby Titus Young's Lawyer » Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:20 pm

Watt > Ware, Jackson and Bowman. Watt is to DL what Graham is to TE. They are young and elite at their position
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Re: Bowman or Watt?

Postby wibz » Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:36 pm

I'd take Watt and Jackson by a mile.

We don't know what Ware will do with his hand in the dirt yet. Jackson is very serviceable as a low end LB1 and even if Watt produces half of what he did last year, he's still in the cream of the crop at DL and much younger.

Do you miss on an elite LB? Sure, but a premium DL the quality of Watt is extremely rare to come by. The point dropoff is MUCH bigger with linemen than linebackers.
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